In marriage therapy, how would you help someone “click” with their spouse again after years of mostly marital apathy?
I had zero interest in sports. Playing them or watching them. He really wanted to take his son to games. Looking back, I realize it was part of his dream of being a dad. He made very few demands on me. He was quietly encouraging, always supportive, no fanfare.

So I decided to study baseball. I learned various players names and batting averages, what a double play was, what an inherited runner and a grand slam were, and what a sacrifice bunt was, for starters, and why 1962 was such an important year.

I developed a curiosity about Harmon Killebrew, Bob Allison, and Lenny Green, and the great Camilo Pascual and Tony Oliva, and found them actually interesting, in those early days when I was starting college and enjoying my dad in new ways. Oh, and I just remembered Zoilo Versalles.

Look at that. The Twins became the Twins in 1961 and came into their own in 1962, and my dad died in 2002, and I still remember names like Zoilo and Harmon and Oliva and Killebrew.

From a personality that had zero room for an interest in any spectator sport, I developed an interest in major league baseball, for my dad, and it benefited me so much.

You can learn to develop curiosity about practically anything if it’s important to someone you love, even after “years of mostly marital apathy.” If you can’t think of anything at all, it’s become a sad habit, and you’ll just have to develop curiosity about and interest in your spouse as a person.

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